Seal of the Ordo Aeternus Vovin

Ordo Aeternus Vovin

Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be the Whole of the Law

Frequently Asked Questions

Here are the answers to the most frequently asked questions. Have a question you don't see answered? Please feel free to contact us and ask.

  1. What can the OAV provide for me that other orders cannot?
  2. Is the OAV a religious order?
  3. Is the OAV based on the Golden Dawn system of magick?
  4. Does the OAV practice sex magick?
  5. Can someone who is FTM join the OAV?

What can the OAV provide for me that other orders cannot?
The OAV is an unique order in that we only initiate gay and bisexual men. We provide a mythos and theology that is queer-centric and that emphasizes the specialness of queer men. We provide a brotherhood made up exclusively of queer men that is affirming, sex-positive, respectful and loving.
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Is the OAV a religious order?
Yes and no. In the sense that we teach a spiritual view of the universe and that initiates must accept the Book of the Law and the Law of Thelema as guiding principles, we are indeed a religious order. However, outside of Thelema, initiates may continue to practice any religious beliefs they wish (or none at all!). There is no "conversion" or any need to abandon previous religious or spiritual views in order to join.
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Is the OAV based on the Golden Dawn system of magick?
We use many concepts that were first put forth by the Golden Dawn but our system of magick is synthetic or built from many different systems and parts. We incorporate the magick of Aleister Crowley, the Cabala, the work of the Golden Dawn, the Enochian system of Dr. John Dee, Eastern thought and tantra. While initiates may recognize some elements of the Golden Dawn in our rituals, we do not follow a purely Golden Dawn system of ritual.
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Does the OAV practice sex magick?
The OAV teaches tantric concepts and in the higher degrees, we teach sex magick that is tailored towards men who love men. However, the practice of sex magick is not a requirement of membership and does not form the foundation of our practices.
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Can someone who is FTM join the OAV?
We welcome our trans brothers equally. Candidates for initiation must identify as male and must express same-sex attraction or be comfortable working in a homo-erotically charged environment.
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